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Klausimas dėl generatoriaus

Standartinė Auddrius » 2017 10 24 , 11:46

Sveiki,

žinau kad jau buvo klausta, bet noriu dar pasitikslinti - ar Ford Mondeo 2002 metų 85 KW TDDI tinka generatorius nuo TDCI 96kW?
Ar jie visi vienodi, nėra kokių niuansų?
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Variklis: 2,0 l Duratorq TD
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Spalva: Pilka
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Re: Klausimas dėl generatoriaus

Standartinė tddiguru » 2017 10 24 , 18:45

Vienodi, tiks. Nepamirsk kalcio-sidabro akumuliatoriaus, jei nori isnaudoti "sumanaus" generatoriaus privalumus. :D
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Variklis: 2,0 l Duratorq TD
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Re: Klausimas dėl generatoriaus

Standartinė Auddrius » 2017 11 09 , 09:37

Ačiū, tikrai tiko.
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Re: Klausimas dėl generatoriaus

Standartinė Arturasas » 2017 11 10 , 14:29

tddiguru rašė:Vienodi, tiks. Nepamirsk kalcio-sidabro akumuliatoriaus, jei nori isnaudoti "sumanaus" generatoriaus privalumus. :D

Kokie gi tie privalumai ? :?
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Lytis: Vyras
Mondeo karta: MkIII
Gamybos metai: 2003
Variklis: 2,0 l Duratorq TD
Kuro tipas: Dyzelinas
Kėbulo tipas: Universalas
Spalva: Juoda
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Re: Klausimas dėl generatoriaus

Standartinė tddiguru » 2017 11 10 , 15:16

Nors ir nelabai cia tam vieta/postas, bet idomumui:
https://www.picoauto.com/library/automotive-guided-tests/ford-smart-alternator
"When the engine is started, the generator begins to generate alternating current (AC) which it converts to direct current (DC) internally. The DC current is supplied to the battery and vehicle electrical loads at a voltage controlled by the voltage regulator (located on the back of the generator). The charging system voltage is controlled by the powertrain control module (PCM). The battery is more efficiently charged with a higher voltage when the battery is cold and a lower voltage when the battery is warm. The PCM is able to adjust the charging voltage according to battery temperature, which it calculates based on intake air temperature (IAT) and engine coolant temperature (ECT).

The PCM simultaneously monitors and controls the voltage output of the generator. When the current consumption is high or the battery is excessively discharged, the system is able to increase the idle speed. To minimize the engine drag when starting the engine, the PCM deactivates the generator. When the engine has started, the PCM then progressively increases the output of the generator.

The PCM controls the operation of the charging system warning indicator which is located in the instrument cluster. The PCM is therefore responsible for turning the warning indicator off after the engine is started and illuminating it under fault conditions, the warning indicator will also be illuminated by the PCM at key–on, engin-off, and stall conditions.

The smart charging system consists of the following functions:

Battery temperature estimation and charging voltage control
Generator load feed forward
Generator deactivation during engine crank
Idle speed increase under low voltage / high electrical load conditions (to increase alternator output and reduce battery discharge)
Low voltage electrical load deactivation
Over-voltage activation of electrical loads
By continually calculating the battery temperature and controlling generator output voltage the battery charging current is optimized. The generator load feed forward function gives the PCM advance warning of impending electrical load, and hence impending changes in alternator torque. Using this information, the PCM is able to achieve a greater degree of idle stability. The PCM also controls the generator activation during crank, and the idle speed increase functions. The passenger junction box (PJB) controls the two remaining smart charging functions, low voltage electrical load deactivation and over-voltage activation of electrical loads. When the battery voltage drops below the low voltage threshold, the PJB disables the following components in this order with a 5 second delay between each load deactivation:

Heated windshield
Heated rear window
Air conditioning
The PJB re-enables all previously disabled electrical loads when the battery voltage is above the low voltage threshold. The order for re-enabling loads is air conditioning, then the heated rear window, then the heated windshield, with a 5 second delay between each load reactivation. When re-enabled, the electrical loads are returned to normal mode, therefore the component is switched off awaiting a PJB input signal from the switch. Over-voltage activation of electrical loads is enabled when the PJB recognizes the battery voltage is above the over-voltage threshold for a 20 second period, and the charging system warning indicator is on.

When the threshold is reached the PJB activates the following components in this order with a 5 second delay between each load:

Heated rear window
Heated windshield
The purpose of this is to reduce the voltage back within specification, and reduce any overcharging damage to the battery. The PJB returns the electrical loads to normal mode if the battery voltage drops below the high voltage threshold for a 20 second period. This is in order to prevent excessive battery drain. The order for returning loads to normal mode is heated windshield then heated rear window, with a 5 second delay between each load reactivation. A cycling condition may occur where loads are repeatedly activated and deactivated as the voltage levels increase and decrease. This behavior is to be expected in a continuous over-voltage fault condition, and serves to minimize both damage to the battery due to overcharging, and the battery current drain due to activation of the heated rear window and heated windshield. In normal mode, the electrical loads are switched off awaiting a PJB input signal from the switch. The low voltage threshold is approximately 10.3 volts and the over-voltage threshold is approximately 16 volts. "
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